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00:00:01.80 Tony Fowler And we're live.
00:00:04.33 Taylor Kruse Welcome back to the Cruise Elite Podcast. Tony how are you?
00:00:07.48 Tony Fowler Good morning Taylor I was just doing my my juggling warmup.
00:00:09.68 Taylor Kruse What's happening?
00:00:13.01 Taylor Kruse Were you really?
00:00:13.28 Tony Fowler which Yeah would you know once i'm once I'm all set here and I'm like... still a little still feeling a little flat i just get up and grab them and
00:00:23.05 Taylor Kruse Get activated.
00:00:24.09 Tony Fowler Yeah but mostly for like just the warm up for like the.
00:00:25.18 Taylor Kruse That's cool.
00:00:28.95 Tony Fowler You know get my heart rate up a little bit focus on something.
00:00:32.78 Taylor Kruse That's cool.
00:00:34.22 Tony Fowler Yeah.
00:00:34.79 Taylor Kruse Little high payoff drill before.
00:00:35.03 Tony Fowler Yeah.
00:00:37.67 Taylor Kruse Before you get get into it
00:00:39.71 Tony Fowler So I don't know that it's high payoff for me.
00:00:42.27 Taylor Kruse Uh huh. Uh huh.
00:00:42.96 Tony Fowler When I have assessed I haven't. Found it to do anything in particular.
00:00:48.02 Taylor Kruse Uh huh.
00:00:48.54 Tony Fowler Um... But... like i said it's just like ah it's for me i've i've just been enjoying like the skill of it
00:00:55.03 Taylor Kruse Sure.
00:00:55.50 Tony Fowler And the... the movement And yeah if you if you start going like it gets your heart rate up. I don't know i don't know what to tell you. it's ah
00:01:03.41 Taylor Kruse Yeah it's weird like that.
00:01:04.80 Tony Fowler It's surprising actually yeah.
00:01:07.49 Taylor Kruse That's cool i got a cool. Here's a cool little story from this morning. So my daughter was just she's she's five and a half and she was just. going wild and playing early this morning and she was going from one thing to the next and One minute we're biking outside and she's practicing wheelies and the next minute we're inside and she's hanging from the pull-up bar.
00:01:25.90 Taylor Kruse And occasionally she you know. tries to do a pull-up and She you know for a long time you know she's doing like jump pull-ups and That kind of thing. She's never done a dead hang pull-up.
00:01:36.37 Taylor Kruse But... i saw her attempt it and it looked real close i was like oh she's almost past the sticking point So... um I gave her a couple of cues. and I said alright.
00:01:49.02 Taylor Kruse When you start to pull Okay I want you to look up. Okay and then Once you start to pull yourself up. Look down. And she did that and she did her first dead hang pull-up.
00:02:02.54 Tony Fowler Get out.
00:02:03.22 Taylor Kruse yeah and then she she like really worked she worked really hard to get through that
00:02:03.99 Tony Fowler Get out.
00:02:07.67 Taylor Kruse Sticking point.
00:02:08.81 Tony Fowler Uh huh.
00:02:09.36 Taylor Kruse But she did it and she got up she got up all the way. The top part's not hard for her. She's real strong. That bottom part. She just doesn't have that developed yet. So... I didn't have to teach her anything about a pull-up.
00:02:23.04 Taylor Kruse told her what to do with her. Eyes. And it was cool. It worked really well. And I had never tried that. Yet. with her but So that's this idea. And it's been a long time I think since we talked about this on the podcast.
00:02:37.99 Taylor Kruse it's been ah But That's this idea of using... ocular reflexes. to your advantage when you're...
00:02:43.73 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:02:46.03 Taylor Kruse doing something strength-based or mobility-based and really what we were doing there is When you look at a movement You can kind of decide what part of the movement...
00:02:57.93 Taylor Kruse You might want More. assistance with. like to facilitate what we would call like neural drive. which is... More the ability to...
00:03:10.73 Taylor Kruse Initiate the movement. with more strength let's say. But this even works with mobility. Anyway... When we move our eyes to the up position. We reflexively facilitate.
00:03:23.52 Taylor Kruse extensor muscles And then when we move our eyes to the down position we do the opposite. it reflexively facilitates flexor muscles. So you can use eye position.
00:03:35.44 Taylor Kruse to assist you with any part of a movement. So for in her case... I noticed that at the bottom of that. pull-up she was not getting a good extension posture.
00:03:47.65 Taylor Kruse So that's when I told her to look up. at the bottom of that pull-up. So as she was initiating the pull. She looked up and it helped her get more extension through like her. spine.
00:03:58.100 Taylor Kruse Then as she was traveling up... She looked down. That helped her with flexion. So it was like extension into flexion. Right and of course deflection then would help facilitate some flexors you know through the middle of the body but then also through the arms So it really worked well for her but it's something people can play around with because...
00:04:18.55 Taylor Kruse it's It's something I do with with adults all the time. in training.
00:04:22.98 Tony Fowler So I think you actually gave me that cue when we were when we were talking about overhead presses.
00:04:28.04 Taylor Kruse Sure.
00:04:28.95 Tony Fowler And so I'm actually. I'm a little confused with extensor and flexor tone. If I'm doing an overhead press.
00:04:38.87 Taylor Kruse Mm hmm.
00:04:39.47 Tony Fowler And the cue is to look down.
00:04:41.40 Taylor Kruse Sure.
00:04:42.73 Tony Fowler I guess it is extensor tone to to straighten your arm.
00:04:46.45 Taylor Kruse So it just depends on what so. This is why you kind of have to look at the movement and decide what part of it you want to focus on.
00:04:53.52 Tony Fowler Hmm.
00:04:53.88 Taylor Kruse So sometimes... If you look down to facilitate flexors well in a shoulder press You are in shoulder. flexion. So you might get some assistance in shoulder. Flexion. with the press.
00:05:08.31 Taylor Kruse All right. But. that kind of is counter to Getting extension.
00:05:14.24 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:05:14.25 Taylor Kruse through like the spine. Right? And some people are extension dominant or flexor dominant on their movements. And so you might choose one or the other for different reasons. You might be more focused on the shoulder.
00:05:27.30 Taylor Kruse Therefore maybe we need to explore reflexes for flexion. Or you might see so that somebody's losing a lot of... midline stabilization through their extensors when they when they press.
00:05:38.81 Taylor Kruse Or perhaps they don't really have the mobility. to extend through the thoracic spine to actually get into a good flexion based posture of the shoulder.
00:05:49.02 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:05:49.42 Taylor Kruse Because your your thoracic spine has to extend to some degree. to accommodate. the arm going overhead And if you can't... if you're kind of stuck in flexion in the thoracic spine well then you you probably don't have good shoulder mobility.
00:06:03.89 Taylor Kruse You know most people that are stuck in flexion. can't get their arms into an overhead position so you just have to look if if you're looking at a press what part of it do you want to improve do we want to focus on the flexors or the extensors and you try you can even try both and see which assists you the most.
00:06:21.29 Tony Fowler Yeah. that's That's a deep cue. This is... This is a good combination of of a dad story and a coaching story.
00:06:30.38 Taylor Kruse Yeah yeah Yeah.
00:06:33.30 Tony Fowler yeah
00:06:33.11 Taylor Kruse And it's a really good tool for kids actually because. you know how it is with kids and adults honestly like. If you talk too much with instructions nothing gets done and people get confused.
00:06:42.11 Tony Fowler yeah
00:06:44.12 Taylor Kruse And kids are great learners and and very intuitive with it. And if you can limit. what you're saying but actually give them. ways to uh get feedback or like in this case simple things to do that actually help with
00:07:00.53 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:07:01.13 Taylor Kruse You know with the movement that's so key in coaching because. Anytime we can talk less and accomplish more it's a good thing.
00:07:08.38 Tony Fowler Yeah. Yeah and I noticed that you were this is this is a form of external cue.
00:07:14.37 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:07:14.41 Tony Fowler It's look look in this direction. It's not focus on pulling your scaps.
00:07:19.95 Taylor Kruse Right.
00:07:20.59 Tony Fowler down or pulling your lats down and pinching them.
00:07:20.75 Taylor Kruse Good point.
00:07:23.31 Tony Fowler It's not an internal cue.
00:07:25.25 Taylor Kruse Good point
00:07:25.53 Tony Fowler which I'm noticing is ah is a trend.
00:07:28.02 Taylor Kruse It's a trend. i mean
00:07:30.01 Tony Fowler Okay.
00:07:29.81 Taylor Kruse For most people. Anytime you can create External. coaching external cues. Usually movement's better. I mean... That's how we're designed to move really.
00:07:42.05 Taylor Kruse is to focus on... things that are outside of us like that we're responding to.
00:07:47.51 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:07:47.49 Taylor Kruse uh and typically what you see is that when you focus your attention outward with movement You are granted more ease of movement even more range of motion and more strength.
00:07:59.100 Taylor Kruse in most cases. It's really interesting especially with mobility. Man this is where it's super interesting because it's so drastic for a lot of people. but We've talked about it. it hasn't It's been a while but...
00:08:11.79 Taylor Kruse If you use external targets. to let's say bring a body part towards as you're doing some sort of mobility drill.
00:08:22.34 Taylor Kruse you'll typically find that you have a lot more range of motion than if you focus on the internal sensations like a stretch.
00:08:29.47 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:08:29.98 Taylor Kruse So there's a time and place for the internal. focused work. Um in our world. A lot of it is within the kind of through the lens of the Insula.
00:08:42.100 Taylor Kruse so when we're talking about the insula A lot of times we are focusing internal for some. people. Other people you got to do the exact opposite because they're already so hyper internally focused.
00:08:55.77 Taylor Kruse So it's an interesting thing to explore because Modern. Fitness has always said. Feel the muscle. Feel the stretch.
00:09:06.18 Taylor Kruse And the problem is those... things that It's not that they're bad right? It's actually good. awareness in learning that comes from sort of mapping your body.
00:09:17.41 Taylor Kruse And feeling. muscle contractions and though that kind of a thing. The problem is though That type of cueing. accidentally went into the athletic world.
00:09:30.16 Taylor Kruse And that's where it's ah That's where there's a lot of problems.
00:09:33.55 Tony Fowler mm-hmm
00:09:33.93 Taylor Kruse So with coaching. somebody with all internal cues. is usually not a good idea for athletic movement. Yeah.
00:09:44.52 Taylor Kruse Um Yeah so it's it's interesting. thing to explore.
00:09:49.46 Tony Fowler Yeah. Yeah. Well I bet you're a proud father today. that first pull up and and you got to participate you got to be a part of that that's awesome man
00:09:56.47 Taylor Kruse Yeah that was neat. Yeah.
00:10:00.91 Taylor Kruse Yeah it was neat. You know we got our We got our one clean rep before moving on to 10 other things. ah
00:10:09.35 Tony Fowler That's fun. has she Has she shown like a... an interest in strength training at all or? or
00:10:14.92 Taylor Kruse yeah i mean she you know she sees us doing it and so she plays around with it and stuff and um You know educat you know we've we've taught her you know you want to be strong this is... This is what you do. You know you gotta...
00:10:27.01 Taylor Kruse You got to work to be stronger. so she She thinks it's cool. She plays around with the... the equipment we have and stuff. Um you know it's it The type of...
00:10:36.77 Taylor Kruse you know work out that she does because occasionally she'll join us in like our warm-up or something it's short-lived right where she's just kind of exploring and playing and that's how it should be and
00:10:41.89 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:10:46.36 Taylor Kruse And she moves on to something else. But yeah it's. It's good because she's growing up. She's growing up and understanding or experiencing that the fitness part of things is just built into the lifestyle.
00:10:59.10 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:10:59.73 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:11:03.99 Tony Fowler Well we've got a Q and &A today.
00:11:05.90 Taylor Kruse Yeah we sure do
00:11:07.20 Tony Fowler We've got a bunch of great questions. and uh A bunch more came in since you last posted. So thank you to everybody sending in your questions.
00:11:15.80 Taylor Kruse Yeah thanks guys.
00:11:16.05 Tony Fowler We're trying to get to. as many as we can as possible. um But they all deserve their time so we'll see how many we get to.
00:11:24.94 Taylor Kruse Nice.
00:11:26.32 Tony Fowler This is our first one. It's from...
00:11:29.88 Tony Fowler Sawyer the Cliffordoodle
00:11:31.88 Taylor Kruse Heh.
00:11:33.23 Tony Fowler What would you look at first? with SI issues.
00:11:37.94 Taylor Kruse With SI issues. yeah i get asked about this a lot Man it's a big one.
00:11:42.00 Tony Fowler And I...
00:11:42.91 Taylor Kruse it's hard to pick one thing
00:11:45.21 Tony Fowler can Can we start with ah I actually had to look up SI. because I'm just not as familiar with this stuff.
00:11:49.71 Taylor Kruse Yes yeah.
00:11:51.49 Tony Fowler Can we start? there and then
00:11:53.18 Taylor Kruse Yeah Sacro Iliac.
00:11:55.62 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:11:55.81 Taylor Kruse Um dysfunction of some kind pain. You know that kind of thing. More common than you might think. it's The pelvis is a interesting. anatomically it's a interesting and kind of complicated area of the human body and it's where force is transferred primarily like with walking and running.
00:12:16.14 Taylor Kruse and doing athletic things. So it's an area of the body that... you know can be compromised And if you you know. For a lot of reasons.
00:12:27.01 Taylor Kruse Okay there's a lot of reasons why someone might experience... S-I. problems. As far as... Where to start? Well...
00:12:38.19 Taylor Kruse It's... it's ah There's a lot here. I'll try to keep it. as practical as possible. For me...
00:12:49.48 Taylor Kruse as the coach you know and in looking through the applied neuro. lens I'm going to start the same way I always start. So our students know we're always talking about starting with.
00:12:59.87 Taylor Kruse gait testing and cerebellar testing. you know I'm testing a person's coordination and we do a... We also do a... An assessment that's kind of more about the midline.
00:13:10.51 Taylor Kruse It's called a Romberg's test where... You. Stand either with your feet together in a narrow stance and you close your eyes and the coach will evaluate the... person for postural sway.
00:13:23.78 Taylor Kruse We also do it in a more challenging stance called a tandem stance which is as if you're standing on a line kind of in that heel toe. Again narrow. even more narrow bass. and you close your eyes this is where it gets more challenging people generally have a harder time with that.
00:13:39.49 Taylor Kruse That's a great place to start as an for an assessment because you can get a real good read right away on some... one who's having midline issues. And what I mean by midline issues is...
00:13:51.85 Taylor Kruse like balance and stability. So... for our for our coaches. and students and stuff that's that's a good one right to start to start your kind of evaluations with.
00:14:03.45 Taylor Kruse I have a feeling our... The person asking this question is... kind of more wondering where to start in terms of the problem like as far as drills go. This one came from Instagram is that right?
00:14:12.11 Tony Fowler mm-hmm Yep.
00:14:14.67 Taylor Kruse Yeah so that's... That's probably what they're they're getting at. So.
00:14:20.52 Taylor Kruse I'm going to approach this. give I'm going to give some ideas. As if we didn't have the ability to assess. you know and do any kind of neuro assessments. I'll give some ideas for things that have been pretty high percentage in the past.
00:14:33.87 Taylor Kruse for SI dysfunction. that One of the things to look at. Is just general joint mobility Right? Can you move your pelvis?
00:14:45.29 Taylor Kruse Super important. Seems really... Simple. can be really overlooked because people don't really look at the pelvis in the sacral area as an area of the body that can express mobility.
00:14:57.91 Taylor Kruse Because it's not like the shoulders and the hips right? But it can. it It moves right? It has a job. It's designed for a certain movement. And although the SI joints are not supposed to move a lot.
00:15:11.05 Taylor Kruse Because remember there's another there's a problem here if your SI joints move a lot. Right. That might be. Like what a somebody with hypermobility. of their SI joints We'll tell you.
00:15:23.21 Taylor Kruse Yeah that's not a good thing. That causes a lot of issues. so You can have SI. an si area that's like Hypermobile.
00:15:33.58 Taylor Kruse hypo mobile. Some people have an SI area that doesn't move at all. right I don't know which one we're talking about here. but Again. we have to make sure that we have basic motor control and competency in being able to move. our pelvis and si joints so What does that look like?
00:15:52.90 Taylor Kruse That looks like practicing our... are pelvic and si series of mobility drills anterior-posterior tilts. Lateral tilts. in circles. and being extremely precise with it.
00:16:06.45 Taylor Kruse so that you can hit the target. A lot of times when people... who haven't had our... ah like inside education when they find that mobility drill. They think they're doing pelvic circles properly but all they're doing is moving their back like their low back.
00:16:21.56 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:16:22.77 Taylor Kruse generally the smaller the movement the better you're doing with hitting the target. Don't overlook it. A lot of people have difficulty moving their pelvis. master all of those movements.
00:16:34.31 Taylor Kruse obviously in a pain-free range of motion to start. but just mobilizing the area can go. a really long way. So that's kind of where it would begin. now getting into some of the other tools.
00:16:48.62 Taylor Kruse that could be useful here We've talked about opposing joints on other episodes. Kind of a neat little... tool that can be used very quickly.
00:16:59.78 Taylor Kruse and you can test it and see how this is helping but if you approach The opposing joint... to the SI area and the pelvic area. We'd want to look at...
00:17:10.69 Taylor Kruse The neck. So the cervical spine. and also the jaw. Right. So then we do. Neck mobility drills we have a whole series. Forward back glides lateral glides.
00:17:24.05 Taylor Kruse Circles. there We have a lot of them for the neck. And then for the jaw same idea. translating the jaw forwards and backwards side to side doing circles doing the same movements with different levels of an opened mouth.
00:17:41.44 Taylor Kruse right so Teeth are very close together. Learn how to glide your jaw. Open your mouth really wide. learn how to do the same movements. mobilizing the jaw.
00:17:52.07 Taylor Kruse can be really really good. um as an opposing joint solution for dealing with sacral issues. So that's kind of where it begins joint mobility wise And then I think the last thing.
00:18:06.84 Taylor Kruse And when I say last I mean last that I'm sharing.
00:18:09.42 Tony Fowler Right.
00:18:10.00 Taylor Kruse We could do the whole episode. A whole episode on this. Um Another very high percentage tool. for SI joint issues is our neuromechanic drills.
00:18:22.99 Taylor Kruse and So... I would encourage you to look for tibial nerve glide. Right you can find that on our YouTube channel I also have a ah long form video on tibial nerve spinal flossing.
00:18:38.18 Taylor Kruse which is essentially a nerve glide but We drive the nerve glide from. the spine or pelvis. Versus like the leg. Been very good. over the years for for dealing with ah with sacral issues and there's other nerves there too that you know you can explore but just exploring that category for lower body neuromechanics could be really good.
00:19:01.93 Tony Fowler here
00:19:02.67 Taylor Kruse That's a couple things anyway. The last thing I just want to say about SI issues is that... Do not overlook the fact that it could be a health problem. that is disguising itself.
00:19:13.52 Taylor Kruse as sacroiliac dysfunction. and And this happens all the time. And it's why so many people see all the professionals they see the doctors they get the scans or the MRIs or whatever. and everything looks normal we don't know why you're experiencing pain you Try this professional that professional.
00:19:30.78 Taylor Kruse Everybody. treats it locally. right at the site of discomfort. You maybe get some relief. You walk it off. The cycle continues. You don't get anywhere. A lot of times. the pain area.
00:19:45.39 Taylor Kruse for like the the sacrum that can be referred pain. from other inflammatory issues that are happening let's say deep in the gut. That's one idea. So if you have digestive issues digestive sensitivities.
00:20:00.52 Taylor Kruse Um any kind of gut issue. Lymph issue. in that region um Gosh. the list kind of goes on
00:20:11.10 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:20:11.30 Taylor Kruse But... The point being. The internal health stuff. in that area of the body. can sometimes... Refer. pain.
00:20:22.69 Taylor Kruse to the SI area and you you think... You might have a mechanical problem when in fact you have a health problem at the root cause. And so that is why it's so important to think about your history.
00:20:36.15 Taylor Kruse Present your history. to somebody who's trying to help you and consider that because it's... a It can be a big one.
00:20:44.21 Tony Fowler Yeah. Yeah it's so close to all those internal organs.
00:20:48.50 Taylor Kruse Yeah I mean I've even seen people like someone that struggled with constipation. It referred out into... SI joint pain and like hamstring issues. So I mean there's just...
00:20:58.91 Tony Fowler Interesting.
00:21:00.60 Taylor Kruse yeah It's just ah it's a big one to know about.
00:21:05.96 Tony Fowler So actually I'm going to keep following this. this uh SI. theme because we have a couple questions so
00:21:13.25 Taylor Kruse Okay
00:21:14.00 Tony Fowler We don't need to repeat any of the advice that you've given already but if there's anything specific to kind of these follow-ups.
00:21:17.71 Taylor Kruse Uh-huh.
00:21:21.01 Taylor Kruse Sure.
00:21:21.58 Tony Fowler Let me know. so this is from renegade movement. And they say go to areas for addressing hypertonicity. and the pelvic floor.
00:21:32.23 Taylor Kruse Hmm.
00:21:32.24 Tony Fowler I know you've mentioned the PMC. and SMA. um which maybe you can define for us Taylor. but would love a more comprehensive pelvic health through a neural lens discussion.
00:21:44.78 Tony Fowler Thanks again.
00:21:45.60 Taylor Kruse Yeah and we and we do have a whole I think this is one of our students. Um I'm not positive though. ah It's hard to know all the... The handles and stuff on social media.
00:21:54.23 Tony Fowler All the handles. Yep.
00:21:55.31 Taylor Kruse Yeah yeah. but i But I think so. Um So we do have a whole episode too on the pelvic floor. Right on on training the pelvic floor Through a...
00:22:06.52 Taylor Kruse through a neural lens so For our listeners that didn't know that you can. you can find that one Um... So...
00:22:17.35 Taylor Kruse Hypertonicity. So it's it's it's challenging. I think. And there's only so this one also depends on your. It depends on what you do.
00:22:30.67 Taylor Kruse professionally your scope of practice your licensure like all that stuff matters when you're talking about the pelvic floor because like i know personally for me as ah as a movement guy and a coach.
00:22:41.36 Taylor Kruse There's only so much I can do. When it comes down to... you know helping somebody with their pelvic floor. So... One thing worth saying is that... if If you do have a client that...
00:22:54.49 Taylor Kruse you think has pretty significant pelvic floor dysfunction. That is a possible referral depending on what's going on.
00:23:00.89 Tony Fowler who
00:23:02.58 Taylor Kruse That's kind of a... It's just a hard situation because a lot of times if you refer out for... help for pelvic floor. you're you're not going to get good help.
00:23:13.77 Taylor Kruse right It's actually difficult to find a practitioner practitioner that specializes in pelvic floor health that actually does a good job. If I can be. straightforward with it. They're they're out there.
00:23:25.22 Taylor Kruse Just hard to find. but consider that it could be a possible referral for some of us. But there is stuff we can do and when it's hyper... uh tenacity like pelvic floor that is kind of expressing.
00:23:38.66 Taylor Kruse Increased tone. Right more than we would want I think the first thing I would look at. Again as a movement guide now. Okay. First thing I would look at is what's happening with their with the other parts of their intrinsic core.
00:23:54.82 Taylor Kruse Because why is the pelvic floor expressing? Increased tone. And sometimes... Like... the way things work. is there's an area of the body that...
00:24:07.25 Taylor Kruse Needs help. And then other areas pick up the slack for that. Lacking area. So sometimes if a person has let's say pretty chronic core weakness.
00:24:19.23 Taylor Kruse Okay the pelvic floor will Express tightness. Maybe because it's trying to create a stability strategy. for core muscles that are Week that's one idea.
00:24:31.96 Taylor Kruse sometimes the diaphragm. is involved in this too. So the first place I would start is looking at... you know taking a good history and then looking at okay. Are there...
00:24:43.10 Taylor Kruse Significant. midline stability issues somewhere. that then might be causing the pelvic floor to be extra tight. Okay are there any scars. This is very important especially in a female population for women that have had C-sections.
00:25:01.10 Taylor Kruse Because a lot of times... People women who have had a C-section. Um the way things work. In healthcare care is... You get a C-section and...
00:25:11.64 Taylor Kruse You're sent home. There's no rehabilitation. Which is insane. because they cut through every layer of your abdominals. And. Pull the human out.
00:25:22.68 Taylor Kruse And so it's ah it's a big giant pelvic injury. And uh... you're just expected to go home and it heals up and hopefully everything's fine and um Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. and especially large scars in the midline of the body usually need rehab.
00:25:39.52 Taylor Kruse and ah you don't want to ignore them especially if there's pelvic floor issues then you want to check out scars That ends up bringing us to... more of our... manual techniques our sensory testing.
00:25:52.63 Taylor Kruse Things like that. So that's another thing that would be on my mind if there were midline scars.
00:25:57.49 Tony Fowler who
00:25:58.15 Taylor Kruse That's very important. I've seen that a lot which is why I mentioned it but it could be any kind of scar. All right could be And the midline ones are the ones that I think are most important.
00:26:08.75 Taylor Kruse Alright in this case. so And then we want to look at breathing. breathing dysfunction can also be tied to pelvic floor dysfunction.
00:26:20.69 Taylor Kruse So we want to evaluate the diaphragm breathing patterns. possibly even CO2 tolerance to get an idea of. How is this person breathing? Not necessarily just in this moment but...
00:26:33.77 Taylor Kruse you know uh with like how are they breathing with their habits throughout their day and their night. So we want to we want to definitely check out breathing that kind of diaphragm to pelvic floor.
00:26:46.62 Taylor Kruse connection right? Those are the first things that that come to mind. Uh... And then...
00:26:57.78 Taylor Kruse Going into some of the nerdier stuff that was mentioned like the SMA stands for a supplementary motor area. And this is definitely an area of importance. It's it's in the frontal lobe.
00:27:10.70 Taylor Kruse And it's we talk about this in our advanced course. It's an area that becomes... very important when you're trying to improve function of the midline of the body.
00:27:23.20 Taylor Kruse Okay. Specifically like... midline stability. But also... bilateral muscle contractions.
00:27:33.99 Taylor Kruse in the within the midline. so Think about the you know the pelvic floor has a right and a left side. Right? And there's bilateral muscle coordination.
00:27:44.36 Taylor Kruse that has to happen. Which... makes it kind of complicated. Because when you have that going on you got a right brain and a left brain. that are involved in a very...
00:27:59.33 Taylor Kruse complex coordination of right and left musculature. And. It has to be symmetric. right
00:28:08.15 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:28:08.35 Taylor Kruse And when it's not symmetric or at least symmetric enough like it's. Nothing's probably ever perfect. We run into problems. So that's why the SMA becomes important. And so with with SMA work there's...
00:28:22.31 Taylor Kruse There's lots of cool nerdy things you can do here. We actually talked about some of them in one of our... ah Episodes around. Gosh I think it was the Insula. I think when we were talking about the Insula we we mentioned the SMA.
00:28:36.36 Taylor Kruse And I said that bilateral complex. non-linear movement is actually has been shown to stimulate the SMA. So...
00:28:47.81 Taylor Kruse uh this is kind of funny because You know with if I'm... doing any kind of like pelvic floor contract relax awareness ah with with a client one of the things that I found a lot of success with especially for people that are having a hard time.
00:29:03.100 Taylor Kruse either getting their pelvic floor to feel like it will fully relax. Or... Getting to the point where they can make a full contraction So like improving their motor control.
00:29:14.43 Taylor Kruse One of the things that works really well is doing something complex with both hands at the same time. So like ah bilateral hand figure eights because it's a complex nonlinear movement.
00:29:27.27 Taylor Kruse All right and either doing that before or at the same time as trying to do some of the more localized pelvic floor contract relax awareness work. And that's been quite quite high percentage.
00:29:39.17 Taylor Kruse And another one. It's really bizarre. is vibrating the teeth.
00:29:44.65 Tony Fowler mm-hmm
00:29:45.32 Taylor Kruse Um We have a little vibration device that we use called a Z-Vibe. It's for aural. oral work speech work. And... Holding it between.
00:29:56.15 Taylor Kruse let's say like your your two front teeth and getting that vibratory stimulus into the teeth can sometimes help people. Either relax or contract depending on what needs to happen sometimes both really really weird one um that I wouldn't say it's...
00:30:13.40 Taylor Kruse As high percentage I guess as... as like bilateral coordination work.
00:30:19.26 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:30:19.56 Taylor Kruse In my. My thoughts on that is because... Some people have a very sensitive trigeminal nerve. And when you start messing with... sensory around the mouth.
00:30:30.59 Taylor Kruse It's actually a very high threat area for a lot of people. So we might be running into some of that Right? Everything works theoretically. Until you start applying this stuff to real humans and you go what the heck their nervous system finds this threatening like Why is that you know and then?
00:30:48.36 Taylor Kruse That's kind of the world we live in.
00:30:49.23 Tony Fowler Down the rabbit hole you go.
00:30:49.52 Taylor Kruse is there Yeah down the rabbit hole. Everyone's different. Theoretically this is a great idea and real in the real world. not Maybe not so much. but it has been good.
00:31:01.53 Taylor Kruse And... You know that could be that's an easy passive stimulus that can be used at the same time as breathing exercise pelvic floor exercises. um more sensory work on the on the abdomen I'll tell you this with pelvic floor. issues Usually...
00:31:19.11 Taylor Kruse we have to create a very strong stimulus. and include a lot of the reflexive. Things that go into... um how the pelvic floor functions versus just Voluntary.
00:31:33.37 Taylor Kruse traditional pelvic floor. Rehab. is very voluntary. Like okay your muscles need to be stronger. Let's contract them. Okay your muscles are too tight.
00:31:45.80 Taylor Kruse Let's focus on relaxing them. that's a part of it. But the pelvic
00:31:49.77 Tony Fowler And that's again that's an internal cue again right?
00:31:51.79 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:31:51.88 Tony Fowler Like oh just relax the muscle.
00:31:53.62 Taylor Kruse Yeah involuntary.
00:31:54.37 Tony Fowler Feel it relax.
00:31:57.74 Taylor Kruse Training. Doesn't work that good on Areas of the body. that are extremely extremely reflexive or involved in reflexive actions And think about all the reflexive things that the pelvic floor is involved in.
00:32:13.55 Taylor Kruse right And by design we don't have great proprioception. around the pelvic floor. Because it's my... The thought on that is because it's so reflexive. Like you wouldn't want to be hyper aware of it.
00:32:26.81 Taylor Kruse So it's... It's an area that's very challenging. to... to work with with more traditional. Approaches if.
00:32:37.61 Taylor Kruse If it's a little bit more complicated anyway. So that's why. you know some of the neuro stuff can be can be quite... quite good. And and then there is instances where... if it's very ah hyper.
00:32:51.43 Taylor Kruse Tonic. All right very tight. There are people that specialize in a manual work. for the pelvic floor. So that is always a possible referral.
00:33:00.05 Tony Fowler mm-hmm
00:33:02.67 Taylor Kruse ah For someone like me as a movement guy that's a possible referral to a professional that might be able to. do that and And that can be quite useful for some people. And then that's sort of an entry point into more. It doesn't end there.
00:33:17.49 Taylor Kruse if you know what i mean like you don't get a manual therapist to release your pelvic floor and then you're home free and There's nothing left to do Usually. um you're going to have to follow up with other good. other good things so Yeah.
00:33:32.18 Taylor Kruse Keep that in mind.
00:33:34.24 Tony Fowler Yeah very nice. um I think I made a may have... made a mistake of assuming that pelvic floor and the SI joint We're sort of responding to.
00:33:45.13 Tony Fowler the same things.
00:33:46.64 Taylor Kruse No that's not a mistake. I just blabbed too much and got away from that. Um That's not a mistake. You you can have Okay. You can have SI. problems.
00:33:58.59 Taylor Kruse Whatever dysfunction pain. Whatever. And it can come from a pelvic floor issue.
00:34:05.08 Tony Fowler Mmm.
00:34:04.98 Taylor Kruse No question. Yeah.
00:34:05.90 Tony Fowler Okay.
00:34:06.37 Taylor Kruse Yeah absolutely. So yeah that. Um That is something I've seen before. Yeah so sometimes Pelvic floor is weird too. Sometimes people don't know they have a pelvic floor problem.
00:34:21.93 Taylor Kruse So it can be. It can be. Hmm. Little bit tricky
00:34:28.29 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:34:28.28 Taylor Kruse Right? Usually you can you can know if someone has a pelvic floor issue. just through history conversation if you ask the right questions. But sometimes it's it's a little bit tricky because people don't have awareness of it.
00:34:40.40 Taylor Kruse But yes the the connection from SI. joint to Pelvic floor that's absolutely. worth considering.
00:34:49.88 Tony Fowler I'm going to throw in one last question regarding the SI joint. And again feel free to... abbreviate if we've already covered a lot of what you want to say.
00:34:58.98 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:35:00.74 Tony Fowler um This is from YD Group Insa. What do you recommend for SI joint pain? lower belly pain and burning feet.
00:35:12.99 Tony Fowler how to assess which neurologic pathways are involved and how to heal it. Person is very sportive and aware. meditator since 40 plus years but feels now limited by these problems since one year.
00:35:25.36 Taylor Kruse K-K- Okay. Can you hit me with the that list of things that they're experiencing again?
00:35:32.97 Tony Fowler SI joint pain lower belly pain and burning feet.
00:35:34.22 Taylor Kruse Yep.
00:35:37.04 Tony Fowler And I'm. So I'll just go out on a limb and say. This makes me nervous that there's an underlying medical issue.
00:35:44.91 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:35:45.17 Tony Fowler But I'm curious what your... first thoughts are if there's like a neuro connection there
00:35:50.32 Taylor Kruse yeah Yeah I mean if it's a if this is a chronic issue and I probably would want to cover bases and... and make some rounds through you know through your healthcare. care uh providers just to kind of Check those boxes and see.
00:36:03.95 Taylor Kruse Just because it's a bilateral issue and it's got the burning. You know in the abdomen stuff.
00:36:07.52 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:36:09.60 Taylor Kruse you know Anytime you have any kind of... chronic issue. And. in pain issue anything weird going on in your abdomen? Yeah. That's a good that's a referral.
00:36:20.21 Taylor Kruse You know? and in And it doesn't mean there's anything. Awful. ra I mean you might you might check all those boxes. and Nothing serious is going on. but still have like a burning sensation in your feet.
00:36:33.92 Taylor Kruse So I'll give a couple ideas but yeah but my my first suggestion is definitely... Um See somebody first. um just to cover those bases.
00:36:44.85 Taylor Kruse Thinking about this just kind of running it through the filter Would be interested certainly in internal health. issues if there are any you know
00:36:56.66 Taylor Kruse every Anything and revolving the... the abdomen History. of injuries there. Uh Digestive stuff.
00:37:09.19 Taylor Kruse gut issues. All that would matter. i would I would want to bring that up in conversation and learn. The bilateral because I think they said... I kind of got that they were talking about both feet.
00:37:20.53 Taylor Kruse on the way that they wrote that.
00:37:20.78 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:37:22.82 Taylor Kruse Anytime. We have a bilateral. Type of finding. we do want to think about the midline. So... Again. basically looking at how are things moving in the sacral region.
00:37:38.54 Taylor Kruse and in the pelvic and lumbar region Because burning as a complaint also makes you think of nerves. as kind of a first area to consider So...
00:37:52.20 Taylor Kruse I would want to know like where is the person experiencing the burning because then if we consider that we might get some clues as to what peripheral nerves to look at. You know but. um Looking at branches of the sciatic nerve like tibial and peroneal.
00:38:07.67 Taylor Kruse um And there's other ones to look at in the lower body. We want to look at Searle. Yeah. All that could be. you know useful neuromechanic drills like we had talked about earlier.
00:38:21.99 Taylor Kruse Um health of the spinal cord. Because sometimes the problem can be at the spinal cord. We we did this episode recently.
00:38:30.24 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:38:30.71 Taylor Kruse on spinal cord mobility and we got into a lot of a lot of nerdy stuff in that one So that's another resource for... spinal cord. stuff. um But yeah i had general mobility health of peripheral nerves. I'd want to know about spinal cord history.
00:38:48.01 Taylor Kruse But yeah that's those are the first things that come to mind.
00:38:51.60 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:38:51.84 Taylor Kruse And... working on spinal cord mobility and those peripheral nerves might be quite useful for some of the burning sensations if in fact they are involved.
00:39:03.10 Taylor Kruse But again there's other things to consider there and that's why you want to... you want to get get looked at as well.
00:39:09.98 Tony Fowler Yep. Yep. Yeah I look at a lot of these ah questions and responses as as sort of like a... Little threads that you can pull. you know places you can start to to kind of look at like there we can't diagnose people and and help them.
00:39:26.85 Taylor Kruse Right.
00:39:26.96 Tony Fowler so directly. you know over the. over the format. So places to look. Um
00:39:38.26 Tony Fowler This is from... Ciao. A. Speaking of... bilateral foot issues how would you approach bilateral foot weakness. Slash.
00:39:51.64 Tony Fowler functional flat foot. Sensory input to the plantar surface seems to help temporarily. but are there higher order systems? to leverage.
00:40:02.77 Taylor Kruse Okay yeah so Definitely keep going with the sensory work on the feet. That's... Anything that helps even temporary. is a clue. Right. And it's something you can kind of leverage. with other drills too and that's when that's kind of where stacking becomes cool
00:40:18.18 Tony Fowler mm-hmm
00:40:18.52 Taylor Kruse So as you find other things that help. perhaps stacking the sensory work. on the bottom of your feet that already is helpful. and stacking it with movement.
00:40:28.75 Taylor Kruse could kind of... bring things to the next level because usually sensory input without movement is pretty limited. Um especially in the limbs.
00:40:40.37 Taylor Kruse So arms and legs and feet and hands and stuff sensory input can be really good. But when it's not stacked with movement It's harder to... create as strong of a stimulus and and get as far.
00:40:53.85 Taylor Kruse For the midline of the body it's a different story though. You start working with C fibers. ah you know within the connective tissue and like the trunk and thorax area And sometimes those inputs can be incredibly powerful by themselves even without movement.
00:41:07.94 Taylor Kruse but it's different in the ah In the arms and legs there's less C-fibers. So stack the sensory. So we we always say within our courses we always. say either sensory before.
00:41:21.06 Taylor Kruse motor or sensory during motor
00:41:24.98 Tony Fowler Hmm.
00:41:24.64 Taylor Kruse So those are kind of your stacking options. So you can do vibration or whatever on the bottom of your feet let's say. And then follow up with some sort of... motor control drill.
00:41:34.99 Taylor Kruse for the feet Sometimes that can be really good or you can apply the vibration on the feet at the same time. as doing the motor control drill. And that would be... stacking as well.
00:41:46.20 Taylor Kruse So take what's already working combine it with some other things. That's that's step number one. As far as kind of well we'll kind of stay on this. kind of the proprioceptive end of things to start.
00:41:58.34 Taylor Kruse um There are... There's so much you can do. for improving. proprioception. in a person's feet. it It would be impossible to mention it all.
00:42:10.12 Taylor Kruse Uh... I will say this. If you're going to assuming that maybe we're we're not talking to a... a movement professional that's kind of the sense i'm getting
00:42:19.80 Tony Fowler Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:42:21.62 Taylor Kruse If you're going to improve... How your feet... move and function. To some degree you have to study what it looks like.
00:42:33.51 Taylor Kruse to have a healthy foot. it's It's important to understand basic kind of structure of the foot. And what? should move and how a foot should move because i found that people that have a lot of issues with their feet. Like.
00:42:49.93 Taylor Kruse you know really flat feed and stuff. and have a lot of mobility problems in their feet and ankles. They don't even really know. what they're trying to achieve. So it's important to kind of see that.
00:43:00.92 Taylor Kruse so So make sure that you're... You're kind of learning. about that You don't have to go crazy deep. But... It's important to know that And... Start to explore.
00:43:12.08 Taylor Kruse Motor control drills slash mobility drills for the feet. I'll give you my favorite ones that help people. um our our basic knee circles in a lunge position is actually an amazing foot.
00:43:24.35 Taylor Kruse motor control drill if you're doing it properly.
00:43:27.71 Tony Fowler Hmm.
00:43:28.21 Taylor Kruse I love that one. You can find it on our YouTube channel. We also have one. That I love called the ball of foot circle Okay and these are excellent drills when combined with a Resistance band.
00:43:43.36 Taylor Kruse They can really... be great for the foot provided again that you understand how to hit the target and how the foot and ankle should be moving to kind of accommodate.
00:43:54.88 Taylor Kruse The knee circle. Ball foot circle is... More about the foot. Less about the knee and the ankle so we kind of need to limit the movement in the knee and the ankle in order to Make it more about the foot So there's like a lot of little nuances that you have to understand as you're learning those exercises. Those are great Okay so from an appropriate receptive level.
00:44:14.85 Taylor Kruse Check out those exercises. stack your sensory work that you've been doing with them. Going higher. thinking about other systems. we want to start thinking about the vestibular system for sure.
00:44:27.77 Taylor Kruse Remember our vestibular system the inner ear. is our main source of descending postural control. so if we want to Do something good for our posture and our balance and our stability.
00:44:41.70 Taylor Kruse we should involve the vestibular system. For sure. so The way that you kind of take vestibular work and you combine it with... healthy things for the feet.
00:44:53.85 Taylor Kruse you sort of take a more integrated approach. So what that means is... Perhaps I'm in different lunge positions or single leg stances. or ball of foot stances.
00:45:06.27 Taylor Kruse where I'm really challenging. All the little muscles. In my feet. right at the same time as doing some of our vestibular drills. This is really hard.
00:45:18.02 Taylor Kruse When you see the drill... You think oh that's very easy looking. I'm doing a VOR let's say. And we talk about you can find all this stuff within our content but vestibulo-ocular reflex is when we look at a target but move our head.
00:45:32.40 Taylor Kruse in ice. I stay stable on the target. while the head is moving. It's a better way to put it. And doing that in some of these more challenging stances that you have to balance in.
00:45:44.33 Taylor Kruse Man you do like a few of these VORs. in a ball of foot stance. or in ah on a one leg on one leg or in a lunge position maybe ball of foot lunge.
00:45:55.37 Taylor Kruse Your feet are on fire. right because they're responding to it and trying to help you balance and i find it very healthy for improving balance. stability posture and just overall. um proprioception for the feet.
00:46:10.64 Tony Fowler okay
00:46:11.08 Taylor Kruse So that the that could be some really good. There's a lot there that that a person could explore. for for improving their feed and You can also again go into the neuromechanics category.
00:46:22.38 Taylor Kruse And if you're working on the bottom of your foot let's say well then you want to look for neuromechanic drills for tibial nerve. because tibial nerve supplies the... the bottom.
00:46:33.74 Taylor Kruse of the foot. All right if you... We're... Looking more at the top of the foot we might look at peroneal nerve so um there's some Some good stuff there too.
00:46:45.74 Tony Fowler Yeah. When... training when doing these drills. Like ball of foot drills. and and lunge lunge knee circles and that kind of thing.
00:46:55.46 Taylor Kruse Mm hmm.
00:46:56.44 Tony Fowler How do you feel about... footwear. And I guess it's a leading question too.
00:47:01.05 Taylor Kruse That's a good question.
00:47:02.58 Tony Fowler Is this something that you would rather people do? Barefoot. Or with minimal shoes?
00:47:07.55 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:47:07.87 Tony Fowler Or do you not care?
00:47:10.75 Taylor Kruse Yeah no this is a good one. so Typically if if I can have a person do... these foot focus drills barefoot. I do prefer that. I think that's very valuable. A lot of people that have foot issues also have been trapped in.
00:47:25.59 Taylor Kruse shoes that don't move well and haven't allowed their feet to move. and 30 years. and their feet reflect that. right? From a sensory and motor perspective. It's like if I put winter gloves on your hands.
00:47:39.12 Taylor Kruse for 12 months out of the year. Eventually you would lose sensation. Right? The sensitivity that you had both from... Feeling. but also moving would become less.
00:47:52.13 Taylor Kruse Because you have winter gloves on. right And it's that's what shoes are doing to people's feet in the long run. if your foot's not able to move and you spend too much time in the shoes. So typically...
00:48:03.79 Taylor Kruse I want people to start to do more barefoot work. ah The mobility practice that we we like is a great... opportunity for that. I will say this though. I have worked with people in the past that have such bad feet.
00:48:17.33 Taylor Kruse I mean... it it People out there who have worked with people other individuals that have like I'm saying. Bad feet like. very compromised feet. I mean nothing moves. it It...
00:48:30.60 Taylor Kruse Most people have not seen a flat foot. Like people talk about flat feet all the time. Still I think most people have never seen truly a flat foot.
00:48:41.37 Taylor Kruse a A real flat foot is scary. Like... People cannot move their foot. And their foot is so flat. The wrong bones are touching the ground.
00:48:54.44 Taylor Kruse That's what it is to actually have a flat foot. and it makes things really hard. So... There is probably for some people out there with extreme. compromise with their feet.
00:49:06.53 Taylor Kruse there is probably a place for orthotics of some kind. in some sort of support. Even if... temporary? There's probably a place for that Um
00:49:19.57 Taylor Kruse and footwear that can be somewhat supportive too. But... healthy right? And I'm not saying... buying shoes that you think are supporting you but they're just bricks that you're tying to your feet. and they don't move. and The heels way off the ground and your toes are off the ground. I mean footwear today conventional footwear is terrible.
00:49:43.81 Taylor Kruse It's terrible. I mean Nothing moves. Hmm. a large part of your foot isn't even on the ground so we do want to be mindful of getting people into healthier shoes but the healthy shoe for a person really depends on them their history where they're at you can't just say Hey buy minimalist shoes.
00:50:04.24 Taylor Kruse Because if you say that to the wrong person... They're probably going to have problems. So we need to be careful with that. If I can have them training barefoot I am. unless it's not an option at first I might then start to educate them about.
00:50:19.59 Taylor Kruse the type of shoe that... I think is probably. We want to get them into something healthier than they're currently in and then start there.
00:50:27.44 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:50:41.48 Tony Fowler All right this is from...
00:50:47.63 Tony Fowler AKA Shivani66. Anything that helps. bunions disappear.
00:50:55.96 Taylor Kruse Hmm.
00:50:58.100 Taylor Kruse Um... Tough one.
00:51:02.09 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:51:04.14 Taylor Kruse I've seen them improve With people who become extremely dedicated to... the work.
00:51:14.02 Taylor Kruse It's... ah it's It's a hard one because... For a lot of folks they... They form. Over time right? And there's... there's Probably different reasons why.
00:51:26.85 Taylor Kruse they can they can happen. Um Usually I'm just going to give my. kind of experiential. Play on this based on just having had clients with you know struggling with bunions and stuff usually what I found with bunions. is that there is either there's usually some sort of pretty significant stability problem happening.
00:51:52.23 Taylor Kruse where basically the form of the foot the structure of the foot has changed in a way. Like literally the bones have changed. in order to create a stability strategy for somebody.
00:52:04.36 Taylor Kruse So oftentimes when you see bunions especially both feet. You're probably going to find that significant mobility problem located in the midline.
00:52:17.27 Taylor Kruse If it's unilateral maybe not so much but it still could be in the midline. But that's just my experience. And there's other reasons why you can have bunions I think. I even think a lot of it.
00:52:28.61 Taylor Kruse starts to happen for health reasons. Okay so internal health reasons Because remember internal health. problems. affect the function of our muscles.
00:52:40.82 Taylor Kruse This is... this is so... Weird to me. Because this is... Like I'm weird for saying that And I don't understand that.
00:52:54.73 Taylor Kruse In 2026 I just don't get that. Like I'm even crazy for saying that. For you know to a lot of people it's It's not widely accepted.
00:53:06.85 Taylor Kruse That. Internal health problems affect our muscle function. I don't know when we're gonna get there. I mean it's getting better but... We're still not.
00:53:17.77 Taylor Kruse We're not even close. honestly speaking. So I think what happens over time is... people with internal health issues whatever that might be. Of course that's a very long list. And let's just say some sort of inflammatory condition.
00:53:32.71 Taylor Kruse Um That's affecting... their muscles that really can be the source of... a stability problem that then... manifests itself into a change in structure.
00:53:45.42 Taylor Kruse Because of the way you are. or are not moving
00:53:50.03 Tony Fowler okay
00:53:50.34 Taylor Kruse if that makes sense And again just experientially I feel like I've seen that. or at least i've I've theorized that with looking at people that have had. uh really a hard time with with bunions.
00:54:02.96 Taylor Kruse But then there is always... the person that has worn horrible footwear for their entire life and that is possibly a result of that. I think I think. People used to it's not as common.
00:54:15.46 Taylor Kruse Maybe now? But. I'm not sure though. I kind of live in a bubble. um I grew up wearing really tight shoes.
00:54:24.68 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:54:24.94 Taylor Kruse oh i think Even before. you know our generation I think i think it was really common. And if if you look at. It's really interesting to actually look at how shoes how conventional footwear.
00:54:36.79 Taylor Kruse has changed. in in some way over the years. What's weird is a lot of it hasn't changed and but like in the shape of the of the shoe and stuff but Man. um Some people...
00:54:51.97 Taylor Kruse We're just really wearing awful footwear. And and even torturing themselves. for like aesthetic reasons
00:54:59.26 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:54:59.85 Taylor Kruse um in certain... you know very narrow toe box type. shoes. Yeah. I mean there could be a structural um consequence to that over time.
00:55:11.37 Taylor Kruse you know.
00:55:13.11 Tony Fowler Yeah. Um... So I guess if I were to extrapolate. from that. would working on overall midline mobility.
00:55:23.48 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
00:55:23.61 Tony Fowler and trying to improve. Your movement and your health in general potentially
00:55:29.69 Taylor Kruse Yes.
00:55:30.79 Tony Fowler help get you into a place where you're... Maybe managing those bunions more.
00:55:34.93 Taylor Kruse Yeah. Yes.
00:55:35.80 Tony Fowler or
00:55:35.74 Taylor Kruse and And I think so here's the problem with feet. Right? it's It's actually difficult if you have... pretty significant things going on with your feet.
00:55:47.62 Taylor Kruse It's actually difficult. for the general population. to gain a lot of control over this. challenge because Sometimes you really need a professional.
00:55:59.54 Taylor Kruse to look at your foot and be like well this is what has to happen here And it's going to take a lot of precision to at least get you started.
00:56:06.46 Tony Fowler mm-hmm
00:56:06.83 Taylor Kruse So I'm not saying it's not achievable. without a professional because for some people it absolutely will be. But when your structure changes... and you have something like a bunion. It's sometimes not as easy as hey go do ball of foot circle for my YouTube channel.
00:56:22.89 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:56:23.44 Taylor Kruse Because you can't move what you can't move. And that's problematic because then you're finding a way to move. with the the dysfunction kind of... Taking over.
00:56:34.85 Taylor Kruse and helping you compensate. And that's when... working with somebody who actually Has the skills to be like well We need to use these feedback mechanisms and these tools.
00:56:49.23 Taylor Kruse And maybe physically. move like put your foot in a certain position while you practice something
00:56:55.32 Tony Fowler here
00:56:55.56 Taylor Kruse sometimes is the entry point needed to start to... improve the issue.
00:57:00.29 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
00:57:00.84 Taylor Kruse So it's... Feet can be tough. Right. So but yes going back to what you said. General Mobility Right got to be able to move the foot got to be able to move the ankles all the general mobility work is very powerful there and Um
00:57:19.35 Taylor Kruse Take your health history ask yourself could these health issues... Be part of this. Okay that's very important and then consider working with somebody that can. help you with the precision if needed.
00:57:34.33 Tony Fowler And then i think this I think this will be our last question. Um This is Franny. Rataj. What is the best way to find a good provider who specializes in this?
00:57:50.54 Taylor Kruse Oh Alicia's gonna be happy that you chose this question. This is typically how it goes with Alicia and I. I read a question and I go ugh. How am I going to answer this?
00:58:01.45 Taylor Kruse And Alicia goes that's exactly what you should be answering. You know it's like if we do that a lot. And so I was like OK yeah you're right. That is that's helpful. The reason I go ugh. on this one is because I get asked Every day.
00:58:15.93 Taylor Kruse right through social media. How do I find somebody like you? And like have you ever tried to answer that question? Like how do you find somebody like me?
00:58:27.49 Taylor Kruse Um especially in this. line of work's very challenging.
00:58:31.16 Tony Fowler Yeah.
00:58:31.97 Taylor Kruse I mean... Anyone doing... Neuro work. is a outlier. They're a trailblazer. and they're an endangered species at this point.
00:58:45.00 Taylor Kruse Right. So it's like really hard. To to point people in in the right direction. So the first thing I'm gonna say is We are currently working on a list of People.
00:58:59.26 Taylor Kruse who professionals that have taken our courses. Right. And it's not published yet. But eventually we will have a list of people who have gone through our courses and are studying.
00:59:12.48 Taylor Kruse you know what we're offering and that will be available to people. So perhaps you'll be able to find somebody within your area or find somebody. that does online work.
00:59:23.07 Taylor Kruse because a lot of this can be done online which is really cool So I apologize we don't have that published yet because it's been actually something Alicia has been chipping away at for a while and we didn't realize how much work it was going to be.
00:59:33.40 Tony Fowler Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:59:36.03 Taylor Kruse But not everybody wants to be on that list some people do and then you have to have like all their information And so it's coming So there's that. But here's the problem.
00:59:48.15 Taylor Kruse Sometimes people say well... What's your title? What's my title? ah A movement guy coach personal trainer. Yeah but you.
00:59:59.13 Taylor Kruse but you're you You're not a doctor? No. Not a doctor? Yeah but you talk about the nervous system. So?
01:00:05.06 Tony Fowler Hmm.
01:00:05.69 Taylor Kruse The nervous system is involved in every single thing you do in health and movement. Oh okay. So what do I look for? Hmm. I don't know So it's like... It's challenging right? And a lot of good practitioners out there.
01:00:20.19 Taylor Kruse are utilizing. years and years of education. pulling from different Methods. methodologies. using just their own experience. And it's it's hard.
01:00:34.28 Taylor Kruse you know you So there's not a specific title I can give unless we're talking more under the umbrella of like medical care. so So it is worth mentioning.
01:00:45.08 Taylor Kruse For people that are looking for help with their you know with what they think. you know If they need... assistance with something that they're kind of tracing back to being what they think is a brain issue a nervous system issue. Whatever.
01:01:00.34 Taylor Kruse you can go the route of finding a functional neurologist. Okay and and that can be really good. can It can also not be really good.
01:01:10.50 Taylor Kruse But that's just how it goes right? With anybody no matter where where you look.
01:01:12.72 Tony Fowler Great.
01:01:13.80 Taylor Kruse It's just coaches doctors whatever.
01:01:15.90 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:01:16.14 Taylor Kruse Some are good some are not. But if you were to... to look for a functional neurologist. Some of the functional neurologists do great brain rehab. um A lot of times people only think this is like for post-concussion work but some functional neurologists work on all kinds of things.
01:01:34.19 Taylor Kruse A lot of autonomic issues. Certainly post-concussion work which is so critical. um Yeah there's a lot. there's there's There's a lot there that they that they can...
01:01:45.57 Taylor Kruse help and it's a functional neurology. Okay so that's the key. That means they're looking at movement. They're looking at outcomes from. from interventions.
01:01:56.21 Taylor Kruse Very very different then. I saw my neuro I went to my doctor. And I saw my neurologist. Very very different. Functional neurologist very very different than.
01:02:08.33 Taylor Kruse the neurologist. Okay. Not all of course but the neurologist. I'm just going to be straightforward is more of a drug dealer.
01:02:19.73 Taylor Kruse The functional neurologist. is looking at function. So. that gets tricky because there's a lot to sift through there and You got to find. Somebody good.
01:02:31.06 Taylor Kruse okay so so that is available right so we want to consider that um After that it gets tough right? there's There's no super specific title. You want to find somebody that's doing work that is... neurocentric in some way.
01:02:44.53 Taylor Kruse looking through the you know the lens of the brain and the nervous system. What I should mention is for children... Okay there is sort of this whole space. for practitioners that do a lot of neuro work.
01:03:00.64 Taylor Kruse that deal with uh primitive reflexes So... And in those. particular practitioners also have extensive backgrounds and maybe do have a certain title for themselves but there's also like... diversity there so it's hard to say this exact name But for children and I should say adults too because some adults actually have primitive reflexes that aren't yet integrated.
01:03:25.13 Taylor Kruse that type of practitioner. is often doing excellent work. regarding the nervous system too. So we might we might find somebody in that space. now things are evolving very very fast especially in the last 10 to 15 years i mean we're in a place now where You can find a personal trainer or a strength and conditioning coach that has a ton of continued education.
01:03:50.10 Taylor Kruse around the brain and nervous system. So again I think it just comes down to finding somebody who... is marketing the fact that they... They specialize in some sort of neurocentric type.
01:04:02.46 Taylor Kruse work.
01:04:03.42 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:04:03.71 Taylor Kruse But it's ah it's a challenging. It's a challenging question that's... Hard to answer and I do get it a lot.
01:04:12.15 Tony Fowler Yeah I'm just curious. are you Do you know of any other? Uh... Words. clues maybe that you would find in someone's description or bio. that might... That might indicate that they're.
01:04:25.58 Tony Fowler Getting into this stuff like if I if I looked at a physical therapists. website and they had the the term neuro in there.
01:04:30.48 Taylor Kruse Mm hmm. Y-yeah.
01:04:33.77 Tony Fowler that That's...
01:04:33.89 Taylor Kruse The term neuro is yeah.
01:04:35.56 Tony Fowler That's a decent clue. is is there any Are there any other clues like that that might... I know it's I'm not I'm not saying this is a surefire thing but that that might indicate hey maybe they're maybe they're barking up a similar tree.
01:04:52.14 Taylor Kruse No neuro's the word. I think neuro is the word.
01:04:56.02 Tony Fowler Yeah.
01:04:56.08 Taylor Kruse Yeah. I'll also say when you're looking for a practitioner. Sometimes the more... The more stuff they list... It's almost a red flag.
01:05:07.13 Taylor Kruse Um Not always. It also depends on the stage of their career. like early on in my career i thought i should put every single thing that i've ever done
01:05:17.37 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:05:17.70 Taylor Kruse Right in writing And I did that because it's like. You know you... you It's like you want to prove to someone that you're valuable enough to work with them.
01:05:27.99 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:05:28.53 Taylor Kruse And then you get to a stage where you're like. Yeah whatever. I'm not going to write anything. If they find me I'll do a good job and they'll stay. right it's just like that's and so it's it's tough um sometimes we got to be careful of like The marketing that happens with.
01:05:45.79 Taylor Kruse The methodology. right if someone's writing all these methodologies because sometimes We get into. places where...
01:05:57.63 Taylor Kruse the practitioner is kind of over devoted to one thing. over devoted to one thing like personally i'd rather work with a strength and conditioning coach that markets themselves as a strength coach that can help you with getting stronger and improving your balance and that kind of thing.
01:06:16.01 Taylor Kruse versus the... practitioner that has like all these specialized methodologies and certifications. Like that stuff's valuable don't get me wrong.
01:06:27.40 Taylor Kruse but We don't want to be over-devoted to any one system. Typically... And that's where... We can get into...
01:06:38.99 Taylor Kruse Just methods that are kind of incomplete. I mean everything's incomplete right? But.
01:06:42.93 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:06:43.49 Taylor Kruse Really incomplete. but Not open-minded enough to... To say well this is not working For you...
01:06:54.33 Taylor Kruse We might now have to go back into a different toolbox and find something that is I always encourage people to you know make sure that... They're working with a professional that is... A professional that is...
01:07:06.43 Taylor Kruse knows that each person is different. You know and and so a lot of good professionals out there are going to have a lot of education. And usually the people that are the best.
01:07:17.41 Taylor Kruse stop talking about all that education and just start doing a good job.
01:07:22.49 Tony Fowler Mm hmm.
01:07:22.71 Taylor Kruse Right and they and they cover they look they They look at the... person holistically. And then they draw from their education and in their... certifications and the methods they know to construct.
01:07:38.17 Taylor Kruse the solution for that individual. If that makes sense. So this is a hard thing to navigate.
01:07:44.17 Tony Fowler Yeah I'll just pull out an example a made up example from. from an example you used in this podcast like let's say someone says like oh i specialize in and applied neuro and
01:07:50.44 Taylor Kruse Hmm.
01:07:55.36 Tony Fowler You know i I what I do is. Apply vibration. to the mouth to simulate the trigeminal nerve and that's what I do.
01:08:03.96 Taylor Kruse Mm hmm.
01:08:04.99 Tony Fowler I'm just making this up. I doubt anyone. says that.
01:08:07.39 Taylor Kruse Sure.
01:08:07.88 Tony Fowler But. You know like what if that's the thing that's really threatening? And... They're devoted to that methodology specifically.
01:08:17.92 Taylor Kruse Mm hmm. Right.
01:08:19.20 Tony Fowler Then what?
01:08:20.32 Taylor Kruse I mean we see this constantly in the... ah in the fascia arena
01:08:24.86 Tony Fowler Hmm.
01:08:25.81 Taylor Kruse Right? Because it's such a buzzword right now with fascia. And people... people are under the impression maybe they threw seeing things on social media or whatever like they need.
01:08:39.66 Taylor Kruse they need specific work for their fascia. And so they find some sort of therapist that has based their career around fascia. Um... And... There's lots of different things we can do.
01:08:55.25 Taylor Kruse That. Target. Connective tissues. Okay that are very good but we typically see an over-devotion to that one thing. And then...
01:09:07.57 Taylor Kruse Then what what if that one thing is actually like you said threatening? right and there's no test and there's no history is typically what we see with a lot of these things There's good people out there don't get me wrong but...
01:09:19.92 Taylor Kruse it's it's also becoming. Pretty cool. Wild. right uh So we we want to find somebody that's... ah Well-rounded. isn't necessarily over devoted to one thing one methodology and looks at it the whole person.
01:09:33.70 Taylor Kruse not just one tissue. Let's say it that way. How about that? if If the person you're working with... Is working with one. tissue.
01:09:44.53 Taylor Kruse Meh. We should probably go elsewhere.
01:09:52.79 Tony Fowler Awesome man. A lot of ah specific questions.
01:09:56.93 Taylor Kruse Yeah.
01:09:57.12 Tony Fowler And. I think a lot of a lot of clues that people can... use to help.
01:10:03.14 Taylor Kruse Yeah thank you everybody for for sending in the questions. Appreciate that.
01:10:10.11 Taylor Kruse All right so... Let's see What do I have to tell people? A couple of things. uh As always. If you haven't seen the free masterclass.
01:10:23.34 Taylor Kruse the free neuro masterclass centered around cranial nerves. Check that out. You can find the link for it in the show notes. And I'm starting to think more about our courses now because very very. quickly Is the neuro dojo.
01:10:37.43 Taylor Kruse coming. We're going to be starting. this next round of our advanced course the NeuroDojo. at the beginning of september so we're gearing up for that now A lot of. People have been expressing interest in the courses and they're wondering you know I get these messages hey can I can i join? can i join and um the answer is yes you can join but we you gotta to join at the right time so
01:11:01.16 Taylor Kruse If you are interested in our courses like you already know you're definitely going to take them or you're just interested in learning more about the courses. make sure that you're on the waiting list.
01:11:12.49 Taylor Kruse because then once you're on our waiting list for the courses you'll be notified through email about when we are running future enrollments. Okay so we have very specific enrollment times Um
01:11:28.65 Taylor Kruse Traditionally each year. basically what you can Almost. pretty much 100 % count on is that there's going to be an enrollment. around let's say March.
01:11:42.03 Taylor Kruse But sometimes we'll do small. private enrollments that you can only learn about through email. And so it just all depends on timing for a person like when you feel ready. So make sure that you are on the waiting list and then. you will learn about those future enrollments that were not.
01:11:59.100 Taylor Kruse putting out there publicly. okay All right. I hope you guys enjoyed this Q and &A session. Thank you everybody who sent in the questions and there's more to come.
01:12:11.68 Taylor Kruse And that's it for today. We'll be back soon.
